SpiderOddsWho would win? Fan-made fight guide

Spider-Man version · Earth-616 comics

Peter Parker in the alien costume

Peter wearing the symbiote that later became Venom, before he learned it was alive.

Marvel Comics, Earth-616. The symbiote-costume era, 1984-85 (Secret Wars #8 onward).

Against the 49 opponents on this site, Black-suit Peter is favored in 32 fights, a toss-up in 6, the underdog in 6 and a long shot in 5. Against the whole original Sinister Six at once: 19%. Against all six one after another: 9%. Overall, this version is rated +5 points against classic Peter Parker.

About this Spider-Man

Peter found the black costume on an alien world in Secret Wars #8 (1984) and wore it home in Amazing Spider-Man #252. It made webbing on its own and changed shape at a thought, but it was a living symbiote trying to bond with him for good. He drove it off with church bells in Web of Spider-Man #1 (1985), and it later became Venom. The suit was central to Spider-Man 3 (2007) and Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (2023).

Fight rules: both fighters at their peak, no preparation, no allies, only their own powers and personal gear. A win is a knockout, a restraint they can't escape, or a forced surrender. The percentages are fan estimates, not official information.

Powers

Peter's powers boosted by the symbiote: more strength and stamina, unlimited organic webbing, a costume that reshapes into street clothes on command, and tendrils.

Gear

None needed. The costume makes its own webbing.

Signature feats

Brought home from Battleworld (Secret Wars #8, 1984) and worn through a year of Spider-Man stories.

Weaknesses

Fire and loud sound hurt the symbiote. It acts on its own, pushes Peter toward aggression, and tires him out by moving his body while he sleeps.

Fighting style

Peter's style with more power and less restraint.

Power set

Stats

StatBlack-suit PeterClassic Peter
Strength76
Speed66
Agility1010
Durability76
Size44
Fighting skill67
Intelligence77
Ranged attack43

Odds against every opponent

Black-suit Peter's chance of winning each one-on-one fight. Each name links to the full matchup.

OpponentSpidey winsBarOutcomeMatchup modifier
Doctor Octopus
Original Sinister Six
60%Favored
Vulture
Original Sinister Six
87%Favored
Electro
Original Sinister Six
60%Favored
Kraven the Hunter
Original Sinister Six
60%Favored
Mysterio
Original Sinister Six
79%Favored
Sandman
Original Sinister Six
62%Favored+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Green Goblin
Spider-Man rogue
65%Favored
Hobgoblin
Spider-Man rogue
69%Favored
Venom
Spider-Man rogue
47%Toss-up+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Carnage
Spider-Man rogue
36%Underdog+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Kingpin
Spider-Man rogue
83%Favored
Lizard
Spider-Man rogue
65%Favored
Rhino
Spider-Man rogue
76%Favored+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Scorpion
Spider-Man rogue
74%Favored
Shocker
Spider-Man rogue
87%Favored
Chameleon
Spider-Man rogue
92%Favored
Mister Negative
Spider-Man rogue
69%Favored
Morbius
Spider-Man rogue
74%Favored
Morlun
Spider-Man rogue
19%Underdog+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Black Cat
Spider-Man rogue
92%Favored
Tombstone
Spider-Man rogue
83%Favored
Boomerang
Spider-Man rogue
96%Favored
The Spot
Spider-Man rogue
60%Favored
Jackal
Spider-Man rogue
83%Favored
Hydro-Man
Spider-Man rogue
76%Favored+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Beetle
Spider-Man rogue
87%Favored
Prowler
Spider-Man rogue
96%Favored
Kindred
Spider-Man rogue
31%Underdog+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Hammerhead
Spider-Man rogue
83%Favored
Tarantula
Spider-Man rogue
83%Favored
Doctor Doom
Marvel villain
10%Long shot+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
God Emperor Doom
Marvel villain
1%Long shot+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Thanos
Marvel villain
1%Long shot+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Magneto
Marvel villain
20%Underdog+3: Organic webbing: there are no steel web-shooters for a magnetic opponent to seize.
Loki
Marvel villain
18%Underdog
Red Skull
Marvel villain
79%Favored
Juggernaut
Marvel villain
42%Toss-up+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Mephisto
Marvel villain
2%Long shot−10: Fire and sound are the symbiote's weaknesses.; +2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Bullseye
Marvel villain
69%Favored
Taskmaster
Marvel villain
60%Favored
Ultron
Marvel villain
15%Underdog+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Captain America
Hero
60%Favored
Iron Man
Hero
42%Toss-up+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Wolverine
Hero
52%Toss-up+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Daredevil
Hero
79%Favored
Deadpool
Hero
52%Toss-up+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Punisher
Hero
83%Favored
Hulk
Hero
5%Long shot+2: The symbiote's stamina keeps him going in long fights against very tough opponents.
Black Panther
Hero
45%Toss-up

Matchup modifiers

Adjustments on top of the overall rating, in points (25 points is about the gap between a 50% and a 73% fight).

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